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  1. Jon says:

    Is it possible to create an app that translates Common to Elvish and/or the Black Speech in a manner similar to Google Translate? If possible, I’d be happy to donate for any work on it!

    • nichili says:

      If they actually translated the words into Elvish in the first place, I’m sure it would be possible to reverse it. Unfortunately, there are a few problems with that.

      1st) When you input text to “translate” they aren’t being translated to the actual words that mean that same thing in Elvish, Quor, etc. It takes the letters you put in and puts out a grouping of letters that make it look like that language.

      2nd) I didn’t actually develop the java that runs these. I have them here as I’ve always found them useful but the site where they were originally hosted, went down. I have messed around with them in order to make another “translator” based on them, but as I said, it’s not truly translating.

      3rd) Finally, if you attempted to reverse the “translations” you’d run into one last problem. Even if you were fine translating these “fake” words back to Common, the way words are translated, based off of their letters rather than their meaning, there are a number of words that are translated into the same thing.

      I will be happy to look into it, see if I could come up with some way, but I am not all that knowledgeable in anything but the most basic level of coding.

  2. Emily says:

    I am so happy I found this, thanks for reposting it! I had a bookmark to the original but lost it when I upgraded my computer way back when and couldn’t find it again. I’ve been trying to make my own and failing horribly, so this is a life saver. Is there any chance you could make this available in an offline format?

    • nichili says:

      Glad to have helped! I was in the same boat. I will have to look into how to make it available for offline, but I’ll give it a shot! If you’re interested in making one based off these I’d happily provide you with the javascript for any/all of them.

      • Emily says:

        Apologies for the delay, I haven’t needed this for a while, and so I forgot that I had even posted a comment. I appreciate the offer. Unfortunately, I do not know scripting or any of that so I wouldn’t even know what to do with it. Also, this page works just fine on mobile, so the offline version is more of a convenience than anything. If you manage to get something going, though, I’d certainly buy you a drink once I stumbled across it. =) One final question, would you mind if I used the output of this for the basis of a language to be used in my writing? I know you’re not the original dev, but it’s in your custody now, so you’re really the only person to ask.

        • nichili says:

          So far I haven’t had too much luck. Still looking into it, but I could give you the HTML file of it. It would still open in your browser, but you could use it even if you weren’t online. You can put it on any device you want and access it whether you have internet access or not. On a desktop/laptop browser, go to http://www.screwytruths.com/Elven.html, right click and save as, choose to save as HTML only not complete. I’ll still look into a more concise way of doing it.

          As for the other question… I’m a bit uncomfortable giving permission on something like that seeing as it’s not mine. I think it would be fine though. I would give a credit to the original creators though, if you use it in something that you would be selling.

          Also, a very nice thing about the HTML version, particularly if you want to build off it, if you edit it in notepad you can see what changes into what and when. It’s technical, but even if you don’t really have any Java (or other programming) knowledge, which I myself don’t, it’s easy enough to mess with it until you can at least change the outcomes to something you like.

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